One of the things I loved about your pieces early on was the confidence in your brushwork. How did you manage to have it so strongly at such an early stage of your career?
When I saw Willem de Kooning’s paintings at the Centre Pompidou for the first time, I formulated something for myself—there it is something that only the painting can do, to freeze all the dynamic and force of the movement of the artist. It's an object out of the time, with all its layers and textures, and that was an elevating recognition for me. I started to look at the paintings like music pieces, and I didn't expect anything else from them. I realized I don't need hard-written concepts and world-saving thoughts. I can compress all my actual feelings, moods, and thoughts, and it could formulate itself. That was my first step to this freefall-like process. This knowledge helped me start loving my gestures, respecting my decisions, or overpainting everything easily. Until then, I made only decorations or illustrations of my ideas.
What about the hyper-vibrant color palette? Was that from De Kooning too, or what informed the use of such punchy colors from early on?
He is using colors in another way, I always thought. He uses shades of gray or black between pure colors in paintings to achieve a kind of graphic effect.
It was an important thing to keep my paintings clean from the early years. It could be an abstract painterly side of me. Also, I saw lots of paintings at the university which were nearly all gray and seemed dusty, so looking old from the start. I decided to go against that, and use clear tones and vibrant colors, to keep everything fresh and alive. Lots of painters try to reach some vintage look because of the classical paintings you could see in the museums, but those were also bright and bold-colored canvases once, the brown and the yellowish look a result of age and decay. There are lots of restoration videos where you can see what is under the oxidized layer of varnish and oil.
Color and form in your work feel like crucial elements, as it seems that they’re the main ingredient through which you’re able to produce wonders. At which stage does the idea or narrative come into the picture?
Sometimes I start a painting with an idea, but sometimes I change the story or the narrative of the painting in the middle of the process. It happened more than once, that I just started to build up the composition, also detailing the characters and the whole environment, and I came up with the action or activity and what the painting is about only in the last two hours.
It seems that you enjoy this unplanned process. Why do you think this is your preferred method?
I don't really like to plan ahead. I think there is a material quality that I want to achieve and I tend to stick to it. This can be caused differently in paintings and ceramics. Many times I make decisions based on my intuition. I can enjoy both of them, but differently. The best part is that I can choose which one I like to work with that day.
The mood of a painting or sculpture can be influenced by my mood, what the weather is like that day, or what movie or music I was listening to or watching the night before. There’s a lot of inspiration, and I like to push into my work, but I’m always careful not to do it in an obvious way. It is not good for artwork to reveal itself immediately.